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Barbel wrote:

I was one of the people watching DAF in the cinema at the time. A ridiculous number of times, to be honest. Audiences laughed at the jokes, "oohed" in the right places, and warmly appreciated Sean Connery- there were actual cheers when he appeared onscreen saying The Line.

DAF had a release date in London mid December 1971. Unlike today, movies were given a London release before going on general release some time after. The general release date for the UK was Easter 1972, so many of you would not have seen it until that date.

Am I the only AJB member to have seen all the films upon original release in the cinema? I first saw DN in 1962 although my only recollection is of the spider scene to be fair, but I did see it again mid 60’s on a double bill with FRWL.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

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You may well be, CHB!  ajb007/smile

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Precisely when I saw DAF is a detail lost in time. In my case it was in a cinema in a home county bordering close to London, so if my own previous references to seeing it in 71 would need to be scratched and corrected to 72 I'd accept that. All I know is that when I saw it everyone was talking about it.

(And thinking more about 'On The Buses', it was actually 'Mutiny On The Buses' that I saw in the cinema - the 1972 follow-up to the first 'On The Buses' movie of 1971.)

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Barbel wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

(the character in the book is quite different)

Author John Brosnan said that the book Tiffany was Lauren Bacall, while film Tiffany was Lucille Ball.

ajb007/smile

In that 'case'  ajb007/rolleyes I'll definitely go with book Tiffany. 

Off track (another intended pun) admittedly but for those that like gambling, horse racing and anything Lauren Bacall  ajb007/heart  this IMO is a must see.  Talk about chemistry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF_chuSy9G4

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Shady Tree wrote:

Precisely when I saw it is a detail lost in time. In my case it was in a cinema in a home country bordering close to London, so if my own previous references to seeing it in 71 would need to be scratched and corrected to 72 I'd accept that. All I know is that when I saw it everyone was talking about it.

Yes, I agree. Just replace "London" with "Glasgow" for me.

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Mr Snow wrote:
Barbel wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

(the character in the book is quite different)

Author John Brosnan said that the book Tiffany was Lauren Bacall, while film Tiffany was Lucille Ball.

ajb007/smile

In that 'case'  ajb007/rolleyes I'll definitely go with book Tiffany. 

Off track (another intended pun) admittedly but for those that like gambling, horse racing and anything Lauren Bacall  ajb007/heart  this IMO is a must see.  Talk about chemistry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF_chuSy9G4

Classic scene, classic film.  ajb007/cheers

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Shady Tree wrote:
emtiem wrote:

Highest grossing film in the UK in 1971? 'On The Buses' ajb007/smile

Took as much as Diamonds Are Forever and Get Carter combined.

In the UK, at the time, the relative success of big screen outings for TV sitcoms reflects what a dire state the British film industry was in generally and how much television had supplanted the cinema as a medium of entertainment. On the whole, folk would rather go to the cinema to see a favourite TV show enhanced by some big-screen treatment than to see films per se. I do indeed remember watching Hammer's 'On The Buses' in a crowded cinema too - but tbh DAF felt much more like an 'event', pulling in the punters and with everyone talking about it.

'On The Buses' as a TV show is the antithesis of Bond. Stan is a working class cheeky chappy who wants a girlfriend but whose opportunities to enjoy some hanky panky on the sofa are invariably stifled by his depressing domestic situation couped up with his old mum, his short-sighted sister and his frustrated brother-in-law. Stan, unlike Bond, hardly ever gets away. His workmate, Jack, sometimes gets the girl, but Jack is a scrawny long-haired toothy guy with a comically lecherous laugh whose sex appeal for a procession of busty 'clippies' is hard to understand. The inspector at the bus depot is a hapless tinpot dictator, essentially bullied by Jack and Stan. And times were hard: Stan and Arthur would spend entire scenes around the frugal family tea table bickering over which of them had a greater right to the one leftover sausage.

For many, 'On The Buses' was about having a laugh at a comic version of their own situation, while Bond was all about jetting off to another world of fantasy and spectacle. Yet on the other hand, Stan could be seen as a poor man's Bond in a different genre, which perhaps helps to explain the cinematic popularity of both 'On The Buses' and DAF for the same contemporary audiences: Mum is M, Blakey is Blofeld, Jack is Felix, and the busty clippies are the Bond girls. Despite his efforts to get hitched up romantically, Stan, like Bond, is always back to square one at the beginning of his next episode, ready for a new escapade.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-ima … c345eaf029

As for 'Get Carter', a great film, its flinty, grim vision inspired talent working in British TV. Together with 'The French Connection', from across the pond, its grittiness was an initial influence on Euston Films' hit police drama, 'The Sweeney', which in turn spawned broader, big screen spin-offs of its own. In 'Sweeney 2' (1978) Leon Lissek has lines very much in the style of a Fleming character as he shows Regan and Carter around the villains' luxurious base in Malta, pompously expounding details about the fishing season.

I must admit I haven't looked into when the films were released: DAF might've been right at the end of the year or something so hadn't had its full run or something.

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CoolHandBond wrote:
Barbel wrote:

I was one of the people watching DAF in the cinema at the time. A ridiculous number of times, to be honest. Audiences laughed at the jokes, "oohed" in the right places, and warmly appreciated Sean Connery- there were actual cheers when he appeared onscreen saying The Line.

DAF had a release date in London mid December 1971. Unlike today, movies were given a London release before going on general release some time after. The general release date for the UK was Easter 1972, so many of you would not have seen it until that date.

Ah, there you go! ajb007/biggrin  That explains it then.

I wonder when LALD went on general release? Sounds like there wouldn't have been much of a gap.

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LALD was released in London and nationwide in the same week in July 1973. As more and more cinemas were being converted into twin or triple cinemas, instead of being just one with an upper and lower tier, more films were needed, so the general release date became nationwide around this time. Previous to this, London was used as a gauge to see if a film was to have a nationwide release or not, although it would seem to me that a Bond movie would not need gauging.

My dad was friends with our local cinema manager and he used to give him a pack of cigarettes each week in exchange for the movie posters and front of house stills after the movies had had their run  ajb007/smile

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

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Wow, so not much more than a year between seeing the films for a lot of people.

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Such a short gap sounds amazing, unlike our 5 year wait for NTTD.  ajb007/rolleyes

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Golrush007 wrote:

Such a short gap sounds amazing, unlike our 5 year wait for NTTD.  ajb007/rolleyes

Betcha it ends up being a 6 year wait for NTTD.

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>SF>FYEO>GE>OP>DN>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>TLD>AVTAK>SP>DAF>LTK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Brosnan>Dalton

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Everybody likes these images of Tiffany when Bond first meets her, right?
As Bond says, "That's a nice little nothing you're almost wearing"
https://66.media.tumblr.com/f458fd27639b3a5f485dd020841f1b15/tumblr_p30oczt6th1wzvt9qo1_500.gifv
(saving Gymkata some work here)



That's the one scene in the film that more or less adapted from the novel, and was also the cover of the PAN edition in the early 1960s!
http://www.pizgloria.com/images/DAF07.jpg
The other volumes in this series had the banner aligned to the bottom of the book's cover.
This one only has the banner raised a bit too far up, inconveniently obscuring Tiffany's bottom.
If you do the math, you'll conclude we really ought to be able to see a bit more cheek, as Blofeld might say.



Here's Fay Dalton's version of the same scene:
http://www.faydaltonillustration.com/userimages/Fuilles%20Mortes%20low%20res.jpg

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Great work on the Tiffany imagery, cp.  ajb007/cheers  ajb007/cheers  ajb007/cheers

Following CHB's point about the Easter 72 general release date for DAF in the UK, I've dug out my copy of 'Target: The Great New Weekly For Boys', No. 2, which is dated in its 'letter from the editor' as 29th April 72. This confirms that Easter 72 must have been when I first saw DAF, as the original copy that I owned of this issue of 'Target' I remember carrying around with me everywhere for at least a week at the time of that trip to the cinema.

The reason? Alongside articles by Christopher Lee, boxer Henry Cooper and Formula 1 driver Ray Allen, 'Target' #2 included a full page colour pin up of Bond firing his piton gun in WW's penthouse suite, and a feature on DAF flanked by colour stills of the moon buggy crashing through the Tectronics security barrier, Bond karate chopping Peter Franks in the elevator and a smiling Connery straddling a motorbike with 'Sheriff' marked beneath its windshield. The feature's headline was 'Sean Connery - Billion Dollar Bond' and the writer suggested that: "if Fleming was the instigator of the Bond cult then Sean Connery has surely been the benefactor." The writer credited Fleming as follows, obviously confusing the novels with the films: "He took the grey, cold-blooded world of the seedy espionage agents who actually fight the cold war and moulded it into a space-age fantasy of death rays, gadget-packed cars and man-eating piranha fish." There was no mention at all of OHMSS, yet oddly the writer did refer to the torture scene in the 'Casino Royale' novel. I'm fairly certain that this feature article in 'Target' was the first print text about Bond that I read.

Mankiewicz recalled in the dvd commentary for DAF how at the time there was a popular obsession with the space age and moon missions. 'Target' #2 exemplifies this mania. Its front cover image was of a moon-walking astronaut; the magazine's free gift was a sample of the 'powder of life' used in an Apollo 16 experiment on cosmic radiation (purportedly Artemia Salina eggs)!

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I've got a meeting right when this starts today, unfortunately.  I'm going to miss the first 45 minutes or so.  I'll pop in when I can.

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>SF>FYEO>GE>OP>DN>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>TLD>AVTAK>SP>DAF>LTK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Brosnan>Dalton

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Gymkata wrote:

I've got a meeting right when this starts today, unfortunately.  I'm going to miss the first 45 minutes or so.  I'll pop in when I can.

Thanks for the heads up. It'll be great if you can make it after your meeting.

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Higgins wrote:

Guys, I may be on the road on Friday late evening and probably exhausted when I am back home ( driving over 200 km/h is hard  ajb007/biggrin ).

I have asked Barbel to take over the lead in this thread and he thankfully has accepted  ajb007/cheers

I hope the day and the drive go well.
No worries.

"We do function in your absence, Double-O Seven."   ajb007/bond

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We start in just over a hour's time. Please see Higgins' opening post for time details.

Please use this link for time reference  https://greenwichmeantime.com/

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30 minutes till loading the disc, and then work through the menus freezing just before the gunbarrel.

We start ten minutes after that.

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caractacus potts wrote:

Everybody likes these images of Tiffany when Bond first meets her, right?
As Bond says, "That's a nice little nothing you're almost wearing"

Here's Fay Dalton's version of the same scene:
http://www.faydaltonillustration.com/userimages/Fuilles%20Mortes%20low%20res.jpg

Oh My Gods! It’s Lady P in Bond Mode!

This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?

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10 minutes to go, please load up your discs and work past the menus, stopping just before the gunbarrel.

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@Thunderbird 2  "'ome, Milady?"  "Home, Parker!"

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Thunderbird 2 wrote:

Oh My Gods! It’s Lady P in Bond Mode!

Does that make James a Nosey Parker?

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It’s 3am here but am I allowed to join in?

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

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TB2, you have remembered that Scott Tracy himself is in this movie?